Tanevci/Gligurovci, Krklino, Macedonia, 2009

-   Where do you come from?

-   Should I speak now? I come from Krklino.

-   Have you always lived here?

-   No, I was born in Lisolaj.

-   But you got married in Krklino.

-   Ahem.

-   Did you always live in the village?

-   Yes, all my life. My whole life with an axe. We had 50 sheep. We used to have sheep; now we don’t any more. We have nothing left, only chickens.

-   What did you do with the sheep? Did you use the wool?

-   Yes, the “Diftici” under which you sleep. We made “Batanii” and cheese. In fact we made everything.

-   Soap, too?

-   No, not soap; you need pigs for soap. You use the fat you do not eat. But we bought more soap than we made.

-   But I can remember ...

-   Yes, your grandmother Ivana made soap when we still had pigs, but what should we make soap from today? ...

-   How many chickens do you have?

-   20.

-   Do they lay eggs?

-   Yes, why did your mother not come?

-   She was working; now she is sick.

-   Why didn’t she come; she could have sat here with..